tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post7604783432360608048..comments2024-03-27T08:14:40.699-07:00Comments on Indie Writers Monthly: Literarally DystopianBrianehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01616494058636881575noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-83105435340891575192017-04-27T08:47:48.204-07:002017-04-27T08:47:48.204-07:00The technology such as use of internet also have a...The technology such as use of internet also have an impact on the morals, as the children get involved in the things that are not for them and there will be a distance between them and the family’s morals etc.<a href="http://www.phdthesisonline.com/our-phd-thesis-writing-services/" rel="nofollow">thesis writing service</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12996310755622883923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-46779486547589675622014-03-20T12:45:15.831-07:002014-03-20T12:45:15.831-07:00Briane: The dystopian thing actually does affect m...Briane: The dystopian thing actually does affect me as a reader. Being someone that ascribes to the separation of meaning of the two terms, I do like things that are actually dystopian. I like books like 451 and BNW; they usually have something to say. Post-apocalyptic books are usually just about survival in the new, horrible world, and I have little interest in that (in a general sense). So calling something I don't particularly like something I do like is, well, kind of tricksy.<br /><br />It would be like me handing you an eggplant burger and inviting you to taste to my hamburger.<br />(I'm assuming you would not want an eggplant burger. I wouldn't want an eggplant burger.)Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-2403156441726863362014-03-20T10:33:22.255-07:002014-03-20T10:33:22.255-07:00From "Archer":
Cheryl: Defibrillator? T...From "Archer":<br /><br />Cheryl: Defibrillator? That's a made up word.<br /><br />Clerk: They're ALL made up.<br /><br />Cheryl: You just blew my mind.<br /><br />*****<br /><br />I try not to worry too much about whether words are used "right" or not. That matters if you're trying to classify something for a reason - -like when you and I debate what poetry is versus prose. If you were running a bookstore and wanted a dystopian section and a postapocalyptic section, the distinction would be more important, but if everyone decides (as they have) that one is the other, you'd probably end up following them rather than spending your entire day in Andrew's Booke Shoppe telling them "no, that's over there, in dystopian."<br /><br />I was surprised to learn that 'literally' no longer means just 'literally,' but, then, I once hypothesized that the incredible agility of English as a language is why countries that speak English seem to be so great at innovating and creating: it teaches us to think and think and think. When someone says "I literally froze my ears off," you have to work your way through that to decide what they mean and then how to respond, which heightens our mental agility.<br /><br />In other words: USA! USA!Brianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01616494058636881575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-49310923976234070952014-03-19T13:41:09.847-07:002014-03-19T13:41:09.847-07:00It's funny that you mention nukes. Huxley beli...It's funny that you mention nukes. Huxley believed in his BNW vision, that it was more like a prophecy than a work of fiction. After nuclear weapons, though, he sort of regretted having written the book to early because, he said, nukes changed everything and, probably, his vision of the world to come would happen even sooner than he thought.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-28966278819573384362014-03-19T11:23:42.252-07:002014-03-19T11:23:42.252-07:00I don't see any harm in making the definition ...I don't see any harm in making the definition more inclusive. If you think about it, in the time of Brave New World they didn't have nuclear weapons, global warming, or any of that to make apocalypses possible. Pretty much all they had was a deus ex machina like in the Bible. If they had maybe they would have included that in the original definition.PT Dillowayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09394481476862013009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-41709379275285581762014-03-19T10:44:21.699-07:002014-03-19T10:44:21.699-07:00Yes, that is what you will find everywhere is the ...Yes, that is what you will find everywhere is the current definition of dystopia and, by that, we can just look around on Earth and find those, well, everywhere. But that was not how the word was originally used or intended to be used.<br /><br />Remember how everyone laughed at Waterworld when that came out?Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-76936797809517521162014-03-19T10:40:46.073-07:002014-03-19T10:40:46.073-07:00I did actually start out the post by pointing out ...I did actually start out the post by pointing out that language is growing thing, so I do get that. Unfortunately, it usually grows in the direction of the lowest common denominator, and I don't have to be okay with that.<br /><br />It's like the popular notion that paleontologists believe that dinosaurs were killed by an asteroid, which is actually just a popular notion and not one that paleontologists ever grabbed onto. Paleontologists are pretty convinced that dinosaurs were not wiped out by an asteroid, but that doesn't stop people from believing the inaccurate notion that they were. The dystopian thing is fairly similar, and just because a majority of people believe that something is some particular thing or way does not make it so.Andrew Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13964775673414653644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-73021936453840096892014-03-19T08:03:55.454-07:002014-03-19T08:03:55.454-07:00The word "dystopia" caught my eye in the...The word "dystopia" caught my eye in the dictionary long before Hunger Games came out. I recall that dictionary defined the word as "a place of utter wretchedness." So according to that defintion, Panem and all the other dystopian settings are aptly named. Maybe we should consider "Brave New World" and Farenheit 451 quasi-topias or semi-topias.<br /><br />As for post-apocalyptic stories, I hope we're all not living in one a few decades down the road. The climate change reports, however, suggest otherwise.<br />Sandra Ulbrich Almazanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365908651235829765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-81903858349798376772014-03-19T06:29:10.257-07:002014-03-19T06:29:10.257-07:00"Decimate" and "Ironic" are a ..."Decimate" and "Ironic" are a couple of other words it occurs to me where people often get a bee in their bonnet saying people aren't using it the "right" way anymore, not understanding that language is liberal, not conservative; it's shaped and reshaped by society at any given time. Language when you think about it is pretty arbitrary to start with. One day someone decided the thing over our heads is called "sky" and it's "blue". They could easily have said it's bleep-blorp and phrendangle and then thousands of years later that's what we'd be calling it.PT Dillowayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09394481476862013009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844784446912062670.post-19776477985128022652014-03-19T06:12:16.401-07:002014-03-19T06:12:16.401-07:00Whenever someone gets upset about something like t...Whenever someone gets upset about something like this, it's important to note that words change meaning over time. If you talked with someone from Shakespeare's day you'd almost think they were speaking another language when really you're both speaking English. Literally. And figuratively maybe.PT Dillowayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09394481476862013009noreply@blogger.com